DC Power supply for Gamer Mini control top?
By - troivi
A usb from core to mini will supply power. Adding another power supply isn't necessary.
Interesting. Another poster in another thread confirmed though that if you remove the battery, you will need AC power, as it won't power through the USB:
*"Can confirm. If you have a 12v 3a power supply, it will operate off the power port without the battery. I have zero use for the battery, so I removed mine. It will no longer work over USB only once it is removed, but will work over USB only when still inside and hooked up.*
*The OTG USB cable supplied by AtGames also supplies power so it can charge the battery off USB. If you remove that battery, the deck will not work if you only plug in USB, but if you leave the battery hooked up it can and does work if you only plug in USB. If you remove the battery, you will need a 12v 3a power supply for the encoder to even get power, so it won't work at all unless you provide a suitable power supply."*
But if you keep the battery in, the unit will run off the USB if it is plugged into the puck? Is it just running off the battery though, or is it actually drawing power from the puck?
UPlay sells one they claim works with the mini for about $10 (not including shipping):
12v positive, 2 amps. I couldn’t find info on the current and another user said he’s using a 2A one without destroying it.
I’m going to build one this weekend and see how it works.
>12v positive, 2 amps. I couldn’t find info on the current and another user said he’s using a 2A one without destroying it.
Thanks! Is there a special tip for the control port I should look for? I dread looking on Amazon because I'm sure I'll be presented with hundreds of different choices. If anybody can suggest a particular one they're using I'd appreciate it.
It’s a common size, I’m not sure what the diameter is. Usually I just dig through all of my walwarts, find a tip that fits and then splice it with an adapter of the proper value.
I have a 10v pos, 500ma with a tip that fits, but it’s not quite enough to do the job.
Would have been nice if they just included an approved AC adapter so I wouldn't have to buy one. I'm nervous about using some no-brand cheapo one from Amazon and blowing it out or burning my apartment down.
FYI: Keep an eye on the diagnostics page in the setting of the Core Puck. The security chip in mine went bad after a week and it would freeze the system after being on for 10 minutes.
There is a warranty, but I think it’s only 30 days. They were willing to replace my unit though when I showed them screenshots.
I'm looking at some of the universal adapters with multiple tips and they're close enough to each other to make me wonder exactly what size I need. They all seem close but I'm sure they don't all fit, so if I buy a "standard" 12v 2a, how will I know it has the right tip?
I hate those universal ones because the tips are so much longer sticking out the back due to them being extended.
I wish I had a better answer on the tips. I don’t even know if there’s a measurement standard for that. Best I can do is whip out my calipers and see what the diameter is, but I don’t think that’ll help you much shopping on Amazon.
Maybe there's a better way to do what I'm doing:
I want to plug the puck via USB into my PC to power it. I want to plug the control top into the puck via a powered USB hub so it works wired instead of bluetooth to help with lag, and then I can use the hub to plug a USB thumb drive in for more games.
I plan to just remove the battery (at some point it will die and you'll need to remove it anyways so it doesn't leak in a few years). So I'm guessing the only way to power the control top then would be via AC?
If I plug the control top into a powered USB hub connected to the puck, would that alone both power the control top (assuming the battery is removed), and also act as a wired connection to the hub at the same time? Or would I need to use the 12v power port for power and the USB just for the wired connection? It seems that USB can do both but I'm not sure if it's at the same time.
I’ll try to share the problems I’m having in hopes it sheds some light on your issues.
Obviously the Core has one USB input, so to run CoinOpsX via thumb drive and have the control deck connected (for latency), you need a hub, right? Bought a 3.0 powered hub to be on the safe side. I have an older 2.0 powered hub as well to test on. Every time I plug the control deck (via usb, no AC adapter) into either hub, the hubs blink and fail, unable to mount the usb drive or use the control deck wired.
All my testing (and I’ve spent hours doing so), leads me to believe the controller is extremely current hungry and gets confused when you attach it to a powered hub (wants to charge it when there is insufficient current to do so).
The AC adapter is my last ditch effort, but I don’t know how the logic works on the controller. If an AC adapter is present, does it stop the USB port on the controller from wanting to charge the device? Who the fuck knows. The documentation is horrible on this thing.
Luckily, the controller is reasonably built and works well on my computer for MAME. So ultimately I may throw the puck in the garbage and keep the control deck for MAME.
It’s really a shame, because when I had it working for a short period of time, it was an awesome standalone solution. One of the more difficult device setups I’ve troubleshot with its behaviors being so inconsistent.
Big thanks for sharing what you've tried. Wow, yeah, this is a mess honestly.
So I could try powering the control top via AC power with an adapter, but then what about the USB port? It seems to act as both a charging port for the batteries and a data port to operate it wired through the puck.
I don't know what to try. So what happens when you plug the control top directly to the puck via USB to play wired, using the battery for power? I thought you were able to do that to avoid bluetooth issues, correct? So is it also charging the battery constantly at the same time since it's connected to the puck?
I noticed while it was plugged in that way earlier today, the battery symbol was binking, even though I had fully charged the control top and only used the battery for about an hour before plugging it into the puck. Was the flashing telling me it's charging? If you leave it plugged in that way to play, is it constantly draining/charging the battery as you use it, keeping them at 100% all the time? Is there a risk of the batteries overloading if you keep it connected all the time?
The manual is worthless.
That power plug available on uplayarcade has confusing wording to:
*You’ve been asking, well I found them for you! Charge that AtGames Legends Gamer control deck from the wall easily with this wall charger and turn on and off your core with this awesome plug and play power system!*
So it says charge it directly from the AC, but I thought the point was to actually power it from the AC with that AC port? I'm totally confused with how this all works.
I bought the power cord from them (they only had 1 in stock), but I have no idea what to expect when I plug it in. How will I know the control top is getting the power from the AC adapter and not the battery? Does the AC port and the USB port do the same thing - charge the battery and power the unit?